Tired Sci-Fi Tropes That Must Be Retired -- Part Deux
Read the first part of this blog post.
Continuing my study of tired science fiction clichés:
Explanations for Vampirism
Sci-fi writers like to find scientifical explanations for supernatural myths. Julian May suggests that fairies and dwarves are aliens. H.P. Lovecraft proposes that ghosts and goblins are aliens. Arthur C. Clarke writes that Christian devils are… aliens.But the favorite supernatural-meets-sci-fi trope is to describe vampires as either aliens or victims of a disease. The classic example of the former is 1985’s “Lifeforce,” a great, underrated movie that everyone should see, if for nothing else than Mathilda May’s naked breasts. The best example of the latter might be 1971’s “The Omega Man,” which would be a classic film if it didn’t have Charlton Heston in it.
But now this has been waaaay over done. This idea even infected the “Matrix” movies. It was the main plot point of this year’s execrable “Ultraviolet” – and a movie really has to be bad if even Milla Jovovich can’t save it. And speaking of Milla, let’s stop explaining zombies as disease victims, too. If your zombie isn’t a shambling corpse created through evil Vodou magic, I don’t want to hear about it.
Nanotech as Magic
Any time nanotechnology comes up, someone quotes Arthur C. Clark; “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” Well, it seems clear that the earliest advocates for nanotech very much overstated its potential as well as its dangers. Most likely, nanotech is not going to make us immortal. And the gray goo is not going to kill us all, either.But it seems just as clear that nanotechnology, and related materials sciences, will completely change our world, and remake society as we know it.
Some authors have imagined these changes, and postulated in the impact they will have on humanity. Neil Stephenson’s “The Diamond Age” is my favorite of these; also the works of Rudy Rucker. And occasionally, a film will reference nanotech in an interesting way. The “mimetic polyalloy” in “Terminator 2: Judgment Day” is the first thing that comes to mind.
But you can’t just throw nanotech in there every time you need out of a dead-end plot. Lazy sci-fi writers are just using “nano” to replace all the usual pseudo-scientific jargon. Look, if you want to explore the medical implications of nanotech, please, go right ahead. But if you injured your hero in scene 24, and want him fully healed in scene 25, don’t fall back on a “nanopatch.” It’s asinine. Nanotechnology is not a magic word that eliminates the need for plot, character, and milieu construction.
I’m talking to YOU, Berman and Braga.
The Ineffectual Crew
So, the U.S.S. Enterprise had a crew of 430. The Enterprise-D had a crew of over 1,000. Babylon 5 had a crew of 2500 (and a much larger population). The re-imagined Battlestar Galactica has 2800 crew. The SDF-1 had 50,000 people living inside of it. The Death Star had a crew complement of 1,226,000.But only five people ever actually DO anything.
This is difficult to avoid; in fiction we have main protagonists, and we want to hear about what they’re doing, not about some lowly Photon Torpedo Loading Technician on Deck 23. Our heroes won’t be very interesting if all they do is bark orders all day.
One way to deal with this is a tiny crew. In “Firefly,” the Serenity had a crew of six, with three passengers (I’m counting the doctor, Simon, as crew). There was zero redundancy, so if someone got taken out, the ship was screwed. But at least everyone was busy.
The new “Battlestar Galactica” has faced this problem self-referentially. Apollo and Starbuck have both complained that they have to do all the heavy lifting. It’s a wink-and-a-nod to the audience.
To give “Star Trek” credit, the show did an excellent job from the very beginning of creating the illusion of a large ship with a large crew, through background sounds, the careful placement of extras, and dialogue. And “Next Generation” was pretty good about introducing supporting crew characters. Still, if someone was going to save the ship, it was most likely Wesley.
The message to sci-fi writers is this; if the life of a starship captain isn’t very interesting, because he or she doesn’t actually do very much on his or her own, then stop writing stories about starship captains. Or be more creative in inventing stories.
The Planet-as-Location
The planet Dagobah is jungle planet with roughly Earth gravity and with oceans over only 8% of the surface. If we assume that Dagobah is the same size as the Earth, then the land area of the planet is 469,260,352 km2, or 181,182,435 miles2. Give or take.Good thing Dagobah is in fact about one acre in size, and contains a lake, a hut, and a Secret Grove of Confronting One’s Enemy and Learning It Is Oneself. Because Dagobah is only an acre, Luke has no problem locating Yoda’s home. Imagine if he had to search 181 million square miles! And all while Han & Leia are hiding in the asteroid field!
Sci-fi writers love to treat “planet” as if it’s a single location. “Let’s land on the planet, where we’ll meet the one settlement of the one culture, and have the one adventure the planet can afford us.” Planets are entire WORLDS. Even with advanced technology, it will take a space exploration crew YEARS to explore and survey a single planet. Even an uninhabited one.
Under the “Planet-as-Location” cliché, Mars is done. We sent a robot, it roamed around a few hundred yards. We saw it. DONE. Nothing more to see here.
It’s absurd, it’s an overused sci-fi trope, and it’s time to drop it.
The Theme Planet
The planet Dagobah is jungle planet with roughly Earth gravity and with oceans over only 8% of the surface. If we assume that Dagobah is the same size as the Earth, then the land area of the planet is 469,260,352 km2, or 181,182,435 miles2. Give or take.That’s 181 million square miles of jungle. Jungle at the equator, jungle at the poles. Jungle in the plains, jungle on the mountains. Jungle on the ocean floor, I guess. No deserts, no tundra, no temperate grasslands. Just jungle, jungle, jungle.
Jungles occur at certain latitudes, and in specific geographic and climate conditions. Even if Johnny Jungleseed went all over the planet planting Kapok trees, it’s not going to create a single planetary biome.
Even Frank Herbert admitted that Arrakis – Dune – desert planet was not scientifically possible. Although he created a clever ecology for the planet, all of its unique (and impossible) features were due to a single creature, the sandworm. One wonders how such a destructive life form, that creates its own climate, ever evolved.
Some theme planets are possible (ocean worlds) or even probable (ice worlds). But they won’t have lovely, warm oxygen atmospheres. Look at the one “desert” planet of which we are aware – Mars. Not terribly hospitable to moisture farmers and their malcontent nephews who thirst for adventure. Scientists used to hypothesize that Venus was a jungle planet. Sulfur rain and 400Cº temperatures aren’t too conducive to rainforest conditions.
Enough with the theme planets. Again, planets are WORLDS, and should be treated as such.
Everything on Mars is Red
“Hey, let’s make this movie take place on Mars! We’ll just drive out to Topanga, and shoot everything with a red filter!”Even movies as recent as Mission to Mars” and “Red Planet” have fallen into this lazy, non-scientific trap. Is everything on Earth blue? Should everything that takes place on Earth be shot with a blue filter?
Mars’ surface is covered largely by iron oxide rust. This gives the surface, and atmospheric dust, an orange hue. But the sky is blue during the day and black at night, and objects are the color they would be anywhere else, unless they are covered in orange dust. The surface albedo might give objects a slight orange cast – but that’s about it.
The planet has no magical red miasma. You can’t depict the planet’s surface on the cheap with a red filter. Sorry.
Alien-Human Hybrids/Babies
From Mr. Spock and Dana Sterling to Ripley Clone #8 and the Cylon Miracle Baby, sci-fi writers just love those alien-human hybrids.Unfortunately, if you can’t get viable offspring from a human-chimpanzee coupling (and Lord knows I’ve tried!), what chances are there for two beings that evolved on different worlds?
Now the sticklers will point out, regarding the four examples given above, that (1) humans and Vulcans were both created by the Progenitors; (2) in some versions of the Macross back story, the Zentraedi are a human sub-species; (3) the Ripley clones weren’t created sexually, and were just Ripley with certain xenomorph genes spliced in; and (4) humanoid Cylons are almost completely human, and are designed to copulate with humans.
Excuses, excuses.
It’s funny, in 2001’s “Planet of the Apes,” director Tim Burton wasn’t allowed to show the human Mark Wahlberg get it on with the chimp Helena Bonham Carter. Yet James T. Kirk could get busy with any alien that had a shapely carcass and a hole.
When we finally encounter intelligent alien life, the social, psychological, and ethical challenges will be enormous. But the one thing we won’t have to worry about it alien-human babies. Time to give it up.
Sound In Space
Everyone knows there is no sound in a vacuum. Everyone but George Lucas.Some sci-fi movies and films have tried to accurately portray what a spaceship occupant might hear, during a battle for instance; or at least use the occupant’s perspective as an excuse to sneak in some sound. The new “Battlestar Galactica” does a pretty good job of this. Engine sounds, collisions, passing through gas and debris clouds, and voices can provide a lot of audio “business” in a scene.
But there is something eerie and beautiful about an appropriately silent space scene. (As long as it’s not all done in slow motion, like “2001: A Space Odyssey.”) “Firefly” had some excellent “silent” space scenes, with nothing but twangy guitar over the action.
Science fiction authors need to remember, physics is our ally, not our enemy. Make friends with it.
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113 Comments:
Bravo....somebody finally rants about this and I agree! These things annoy me constantly, although I continue to be a fan of Sci-Fi...it could be better!
Johnny Jungleseed. lol. Right on!
I loved both parts of this blog, and I'm sorry getting linked to FARK brought you some rude comments. Thats just what some FARKers are born to do. Some of your concepts had bothered me as well, and a couple I had never even thought about! Thanks for the mind bending!
Great post. Every one of these comments is absolutely correct. Glad someone ranted on this topic. Hollywood hear us!
Thanks,
REEG!
Classic, the planet with a single climate always bugged me!!!
The only planet that has only one weather is glasgow.
"One wonders how such a destructive life form, that creates its own climate, ever evolved."
Isn't that what humans are? Or what they are becomming?
AND while you are right about 5 guys doing everything on the ship/battlestation/whatever...
...i don't think it's a scifi phenomenon. It's a "fi" phenomenon - as in fiction.
After all - how many times did Jack Bauer and 3 other guys save the world? THe other CT's are allowed to SURROUND a building, but Jack must go in. If you watch SPOOKS/MI5, honestly 6 people run the MI5 service. And do Everything!
Nicely put to all the comments and the classic article. I would add that there never seems to be shifts of workers either - even though the ship travels (works 24/7)?
And that CT thing has bugged me since S1 - along with cell phones that never run out of battery life.
I was looking for "Mutating DNA is not recoverable"
You can't get infected with a mutant form of DNA and mutate in to a lizard (or another species or earlier version of your race's eveolution) and have it just be fixed by some shot. Cellular and DNA mutation is essentailly cancer.
Oh oh! Also, Surgical racial makeovers! Alternate universes! ahhhh too many too many!
The section on Theme Planets was one of the funniest things I've read recently
Agreed on some, disagreed on others. Especially the characterization of Lovecraft. His cosmology didn't have "ghosts" and "goblins" at all, due it being something approaching a more scientific conceptualization of the occult.
Devils and strange gods, yeah. Ghosts and Goblins, no. Ghouls, yeah. But they weren't extraterrestrial. Just corpse eaters or degenerate humans.
Great list. Salient points.
If I may ... I'd add paradoxical time-travel (changing the past), humanoid robots (unimaginative), dogfighting in space (looks cool, but ...), parallel dimensions (anti-imaginative), virtual reality (done to death), nukes (nothing stronger?), anything that's more 'mythology' than plot or characterization (Trek, X-Files), and robot revolts (just plain dumb).
Oh yeah, and conservative warnings against the Pandora's Box of technology. Shut up and eat your stem cells, Harlan.
You are awesome!
Thanks for the great post. What can I say, I am a huge TNG fan --- but you had too many valid points.
keep up the great work!!!!
Fantastic. I have to say, I don't stray beyond the mainstream (and some Bradbury, mild, I know), and I have seen all of these. They must be done to death throughout the genre.
cheers to your thorough analysis
Reading this makes me want to see Firefly again. They worked pretty hard to avoid most of these cliches.
It's a great list!
You missed the the second part of the biggest one of all - RECOMBINANT DNA IS EVIL INCARNATE and can make anything up to and including Land Sharks (SciFi Channel actually produced a movie based on THAT one! - and I'm surprised that Satruday Night Live didn't sue for copyright infringement, to be honest!)
But Part TWO states that, with a simple dose of radiation, a leftover overdone cliche' from the 50's, it can all be made good again, unless you have to Blow It ALL UP!
Red Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson...Excellent example of fiction that utilizes an incredibly dynamic set of characters, uses realistic science, and has a variety of fascinating insights into the nature of human society and economics.
Great Ghost in the Machine, how much I hate rants (and yes, I do realize that that makes this a rant). Stop complaining and do something about it.
Many things you said are indeed scientifically incorrect but remember what genre you are talking about. Sience FICTION. It's not supposed to be real, it's supposed to be entertaining and it doesn't need to be real. If you want real, watch footage of the ISS.
Take the 'sound in space' thing for example. Can you imagine how boring it would be to have a movie without sound in space scenes Firefly pulled it off because they barely had any space scenes and in the movie (Serenty) even they put sound in the big space battle.
Other things are plainly too much of a pain in the tail to bother with in a movie or a show, like zero gravity.
Oh, and by the way, do some research. The sandworms where introduced on Arrakis by humans, they did not develop there.
A great list. Bravo.
But the phenomenon of the "Forest World" and the "Desert Planet" isn't really a Sci-Fi problem; it's deeper than that.
Remember the world map in your elementary school classroom, the one that showed every nation as a single color except the US, which was shown as fifty separate states. We humans have a tendancy to break the world up this way: Afganistan to me is an arid mountainscape, New Guinea a jungle. But I'm sure that someone living in Afganistan thinks of his country as a collection of different landscapes.
So, too, I think of Kansas as a single landscape (a giant farm) but I think of Colorado (where I grew up) as a collection of different landscapes, peoples.
Even at the city level, I think of places I've only heard of or visited as possessing a single quality but cities I've lived in as having distinct neighborhoods.
So the problem with the Forest Moon of Endor isn't limited to Sci Fi. I can think of many movies that show Chicago or New York as if they consisted of a single neighborhood, or maybe one good and one really awful one.
All of your points are valid and I agree, to a certain extent.
After all, it IS just entertainment, not a documentary. Sure sci-fi entailments, whether episodic or otherwise, can be portrayed more realistically, but only at the expense of being extraordinarily boring. Really, what's more exciting, having a tachyon torpedo sticking through a rupture in the hull that can go off at any moment, or the complete shutdown of a sophisticated and highly-complex space craft due to a clogged toilet or an unresponsive backup computer?
Yes, technically there is no sound in space, giant predatory space bears probably don't exist on other environmentally utopian planets, and alien/human hybrids (or any other life form) cannot rapidly age at some astonishing rate and then conveniently stop aging at just the right moment for plot continuity. Just doesn't happen! But it DOES make for good entertainment.
How about "It's a computer - I've never seen one of this alien technology before but let's give it a go", and 10 minutes later the system is being used expertly to get the protagonists out of an otherwise certain plot-hole. eg. The funny bit where Scottie tries to make Transparent Aluminium (Aloominum for your transatlantic types). Farscape is also particularly guilty of this one. And the bit in Independence Day where the Goldblum uploads a Mac virus (now that is sci-fi!) into the alien mothership. So the aliens managed to traverse interstellar distances with huge motherships running on Mac OS 7? Without a firewall?
Great read. And I don't even like sci-fi. :)
About the whole 6 characters do all the work, check out "A view from the Gallery" from Babylon 5. The whole episode focuses on two generic crew members who occasionally encounter the main characters as they rush to and fro.
It's a very funny ep, even if you haven't watched other b5 episodes. I think Harlan Ellison wrote it, or at least suggested it.
Both Good articles
Here is another topic to write Fire/Explosions in space.
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I would like to see a space faring civilization encounter a colony of humans that had been turned into vampires.
Captain of the Ship: So what's wrong with these people?
Scientist/Doctor Guy: Isn't it obvious you ‘Tard? They're Vampires!
CotS: You mean there is some kind of virus that makes them crave blood and get stronger and be allergic to sunlight, right?
S/DG: No you moron! They're Vampires!
Also, on the Human/Alien hybrid thing: Researchers now claim that they have proof that not even Humans and Neanderthals could interbreed. So what chance do we have with Guo Fag from Rouf Wanger. And who’s to say that they have the equivalent of male and female genders? They could be Asexual or have four genders or have a kind of hive format so that there is only one gender but they reproduce sexually.
Finally, one you missed: Reptilian species with breasts. This is my own personal pet peeve, as the only creatures with breasts should be mammalian (which don't belong anywhere but on Earth anyway). Also, the breasts are always on the chest? Why not put them on the knees or the butt or the tips of the fingers?
Otherwise: great job! Every single thing you said is something that has always bothered me.
Great article!
on a side note, can I have that chimapanzee's phone number?
Good stuff. I particularly hate the bad science stuff, such as "gravity generators", sound in space or alien-human breeding. I'm more sympathetic to stuff necessary for a story to exist. Faster than light travel is impossible, but that really constrains a story.
Ineffective crew - He references the SDF-1 having 50,000 people on board...they were refugees! Most of the reasons for the huge crews in Star Trek etc if because these were huge federations! Like a NAvy ship...you can't have 6 people on a navy ship! The thing wouldn't be able to run! Serenity only needed 6 because, well, liken it to a drug smuggling boat...Escabar wouldn't need a huge crew...Admiral Smith of the US navy does. Obviously, this guy had never been on a large ship where there are things that need to get done.
While I found most of this amusing, I wanted to point out one thing. You can apply this gripe to any other genre and it still seems ridiculous. Do I really need to know what Ensign Smith is doing down in engineering? Unless Ashley Judd is playing Smith then no, I don't give a shit. The same way I don't give a shit what some random character in some random bar on Deadwood is doing (although that could just as well be interesting). The same way I don't care what some random guy in New York City is doing in Spider-man. These spaceships are basically floating cities. Do you need to have every last human being's actions accounted for when a movie takes place in a city on Earth?
"But the sky is blue during the day and black at night,"
Nope.
The Martian sky is pink during the day. It's never blue.
All images from the surface of Mars show a pink sky, except the very first Viking images which were not colour-calibrated correctly.
With that in mind, it's perhaps not surprising that film companies film everything from "Mars" through an orange filter. I am surprised you didn't complain about Total Recall's laughable depiction of being exposed to the Martian atmosphere, rather than take issue with colour.
I'd add anything involving evolution. Individuals do not evolve -- if Captain Janeway gets turned into a slimeworm, that is not evolution. Evolution is not prearranged, there is no preordained end result.
Your cleaned up sci-fi would be very boring, as I suspect you are in life. We need cliches and stereotypes and inaccuracies to give a common reference point. It's fiction, not non-fiction. Star Trek was a western set in space; Star Wars is a war movie set in space with some Greek story lines thrown in. As somebody else said, get a life. These shows are for mass aduiences, not anal freaks.
YOU SAID>>"Let’s land on the planet, where we’ll meet the one settlement of the one culture, and have the one adventure the planet can afford us"
I always wondered about this it was and is so annyyoing everytime they visit a planet, be in Star-Trek, Star-Wars or Star-Gate man it is always one culture, one language, one council as if that is possible!.
Another cliche is the tele-portation, the energize of star-trek, wormhole of star-gate and so on and always we humans send nuclear weapons to destroy our enemies using this technology where as they can never do it to us!. How can a civilization as advanced would allow such teleportation to happen while we protect ourselves
One more is kill the mother bug, kill mother ship and everything dies.
Oh, and don't forget the Medicine What Works So Quickly You can SEE the Disease Vanish.
Excellent post, both parts! My problem with SF has always been the "let's use advanced technology in the same manner as we use current technology" problem.
If we could teleport, we wouldn't need spaceships at all. We wouldn't need any form of weapon, other than a "bad" teleporter.
People are still writing stories in which pilots fly a craft manually.
Love the list.
However, the worst -- the absolute, absolute worst...
...is aliens who speak North American English.
Star Trek made an effort here with the Universal Translator, and so did Douglas Adams with the Babel Fish... but I cannot watch any fucking episode of Stargate without finding aliens who speak North American English.
Not even a goddamned Aussie, Canadian, or Brit accent. Come on, now. THE ALIENS SOUND MORE AMERICAN THAN RODNEY MCKAY.
Love the list.
However, the worst -- the absolute, absolute worst...
...is aliens who speak North American English.
Star Trek made an effort here with the Universal Translator, and so did Douglas Adams with the Babel Fish... but I cannot watch any fucking episode of Stargate without finding aliens who speak North American English.
Not even a goddamned accent? Come on, now. THE ALIENS SOUND MORE AMERICAN THAN RODNEY MCKAY.
Seriously, geeks of the world, exactly why, why why would an alien NOT speak american english 500 years from now? That is like the most pointless criticism of sci-fi ever. And, seriously, why do you think "the kings english" is proper english, has anyone here even read anything about the history of the english language? If an alien has their own language and similar vocal cords etc which enable them to actually produce human sound, they would of course:
1. Learn some english that is most common and easiest to obtain source materials on - today I could make an argument for US english being that english variant. In the future? American English in the "Confederation"? Uh... Language in movies is a representation, should sci-fi-movie-makers invent new accents and words to represent 500 years of language evolution? That would mean all main characters speaking a language NO ONE in the audience would understand? Need proof? Compare english of today with english of 10, 20, 50, 100 years back - difference is huge.
2. They would talk with an alien accent. Not british, not american, not indian. Alien. Since they speak an alien language normally, that language would affect their english.
3. Unless they are superadvanced, moreso than us, and just learn languages perfectly - then they could very well speak american english since they perhaps... like it? Oh, I forgot, if you are advanced, you do things 100% logically and right - hence you learn british english.
Why?
Otherwise, REALLY good article, above all, a lot of fun!
Cheers,
Tommie
An ocean world can have an oxygen atmosphere. Ours did before life climbed up onto land. The main oxygen producer on this planet is cyanobacteria.
And last comment from me: a well placed karate chop to the neck can take a guy out. Google, wikipedia, do what you want to check it out but it is of course entirely possible. What you get is a "flash knockout" due to either nerves being shocked or the arteries (or whatever) being smacked hard disrupting, very temporarily, the blood flow to the brain. The brains reaction to certain blunt trauma is to - shut off. If the trauma isn't serious, you wake up less than a second after. Need actual proof? Watch MMA where you see things like that. I have seen at least one flash knockout due to a hit on the side of the neck. Oooh, these horrible sci-fi-writers. Again, great article tho.
The point of sci fi is not the set of tropes used; elements like setting, tropes, themes, or even PLOT are just so many shiny bangles for the seed of an idea ensconsed within. Good sci fi, at least. This is why Asimov wrote 300 space frontier books, and 70% of them were compelling reads. And come on, colors? Claiming that all space travel is inaccurate due to "chaos theory"? You really should have provided the proof--I'm not sure most of your readers would know about this astounding discovery!
Here's another: people who can go through solid objects but who walk around on the floor without any difficulty. Their feet push them forward -- how? They stay level with the surface -- why?
I'm also a bit tired of folks who couldn't outrun a first-baseman being able to outrun shockwaves, but that's not strictly a sci-fi trope.
Am I the ONLY one who thinks this is absurd? It's Sci-FI, not Sci-non-fi. If you got your way, we'd just watch boring, silent video of "realistic" space ships drifting through space. Man, nerds really get on my nerves.
Regarding "The Planet-as-Location". I has seriously bothered me that in the re-imagined Planet of the Apes, the "planet" covers an area equivalent to one day's horse ride in each direction, even though it is actually Earth. Did the Apes only take over this county, or the whole "planet"????
Know what gets me?
Crewman: "Captain, hostile ship firing!"
Captain: "Raise shields!"
Crewman: "Raising shields now, sir."
[shields are raised 5 seconds after danger is first spotted]
A civilization advanced enough to have interstellar spaceships would reasonably have automatic systems capable of responding in milliseconds to any given threat. Anything else is far too risky.
Hey Rocketboy, it's ENTERTAINMENT for humans, by humans. Science FICTION. And by the way, Spock was a 'test tube' baby.
Wow, there were some great comments in this thread, and no real trolls. Thanks, everyone!
I like the comment about a planet as a location. Prety much like Americans holiday in Europe. Spend four days in London and a trip to Stratford-upon-Avon for a day and that's the UK done, lets move onto Paris! Of course America is a lot bigger, so it took me and my wife three weeks to do it all! Got a weekend break sorted to do Luxemburg and Monaco in the new year!
Regarding alien linguistics, I think it's fine if they sound the same as the human characters - whether American, British, or the aforementioned non-north-american-Canadian English -- if the humans and aliens have had contact for some time and learned to communicate somehow. But it would be both more entertaining and more realistic for them to speak some sort of pidgin dialect, and have some difficulties in communication. Easy enough for the audience to figure out, but difficult enough to make things complicated for the protaganists.
Another major overdone cliche is the alien race which collectively represents a single human trait or stereotype. "Captain, we've detected a Zeta Hydroxian ship. Their population of 42 billion has over 30,000 years of history and culture, which can all be summed up as 'greedy and narcissistic'."
Well since I already writting my own sci-fi novel, I will be in the lookout for these cliches. But its already for me I guess. Why?
1. The two alien species that I created are bipedal. So much for that. At least there are no giant bugs, at least not yet.
2. One of the aliens looks like a "Grey".
3. The writting is bad, but at least I'm writting.
Nice blog!
That should read:
"is already too late for me."
George Lucas is horrible about single environment planets. The source material for Star Wars is always about single purposed planetary life. When I was playing Star Wars Galaxies, I had a friend who played Trandoshan. So he is talking to another Trando in game. I said to him in a whisper "What do you think you're doing talking to that green Trandoshan, you know they are peace-nick hippies from the other side of the planet."
I'm a SciFi purist myself, but I can enjoy some of the entertaining aspects of SciFantasy like Star Wars and Star Trek. As long as it tries, based on the knowledge of the time, to be somewhat scientifically plausible, or at least give me a damn good explanation why.
If we want to accept that there may be extra-terrestrial life in our galaxy, we are going to have to accept that there is, yet undiscovered, a means of traveling much faster (not necessarily velocity) than we can conceive at the moment. So I will forgive hyperspace and warp drive for the sake of a good story.
I do, however, agree with many of your premises.
On the point of Zombies being disease carriers, I think that, as long as it is a man-made disease, it speaks volumes on the dangers of genetic engineering, and to me zombies from a virus are more believable than zombies from a voodoo priest who's had a really sucky day.
Well, this was interesting. Just a few comments.
First, I agree with some of what you said. I'ma huge Firefly fan, and I like the fact that everyone had a job to do, and they were very dependant on each other. It made everyone important.
I like how, in Firefly, there was no sound in space. But you have to remember, there were no aliens in that show either. So, bringing in SOME scientific facts, like no sound in space made sense. That's the kind of show it is.
Star Wars had aliens. That's the kind of show it is. It's a little more on the fantasy side. So, they can get away with sound in space.
It's always amazed me how some people can let certain things slide and call other things out. For example, a friend of mine was really bothered how, in Van Helsing, his crossbow was supposed to be gas powered, but the bow still recoiled to fire the bolt. I was like, "Dude! A man turned into a werewolf and your ok. The crossbow doesn't work realisticlly, and it ruins the movie for you?"
It's the same here. If a movie has ONE SINGLE ALIEN in it, and you're willing to accept that, then enything else they do in the movie should be accepted. Everyone is talking about the science in sci-fi, but if there is one ship going the speed of light, then ALL BETS ARE OFF. You can't accept one thing, knowing it's unrealistic, and then call other things out for being unrealistic.
As for the planets being a theme, yeah, we have lots of different locations on Earth. But, that's because of many factors. We have one sun. Tatooine has 2. Who's to say that a planet with 2 suns wouldn't be all desert? Our ecosystems are determined by the sun, the distance from the sun, the rotation of the planet, the revolution of the planet, the size of the planet, etc, etc...
Another thing is this. You want things to be explained. You want things to have some kind of scientific realism......SO WHY CAN'T ZOMBIES HAVE IT! Why do aliens and planets and everything else have to be more realistic...but if zombies are explained using science, that turns you off? Sounds backwards to me.
Also, if everything were real and based on science, we'd all be watching he NASA channel. It's entertainment. It's fiction. Everyone keeps saying that George Lucas doesn't know that there's no sound in space. I'm sure he knows that. But he also knows that being realistic in a Star Wars movie would be boring.
I've studied filmmaking for a long time. Slow motion in zero g. Mars being all red. Time travel. Etc...it's all done for a reason. To help tell the story. If characters were on Mars, and Mars had a blue sky and everything looked like it does on Earth, I would get confused as to where I was. The filmmakers know this and that's why they make the enviornment look different. If everyone was moving at normal speed, but the scene was supposed to be in zero g, how would we as an audience know that? They have to do things to sell the effect, to advance the story.
Sorry this got long, and I know you were originally talking about things that are overdone. But some of these things HAVE to be done to tell the story. I like that Firefly had no sound in space. It fit that story. But I'm also glad that Star Wars HAD sound in space. It fit. I'm just against making things that could be cool, and making it real just for the sake of being real. If that were the case,we'd all be watching reality TV. ;-p
VERY good one. Totally true. Just forgot the humanoid aliens that HAVE to have superpowers when they decide to inhabit Earth. LOL!
"Many things you said are indeed scientifically incorrect but remember what genre you are talking about. Sience FICTION." (sic)
You aren't thinking of Science Fiction, you're thinking of Fantasy with Lasers.
Good ole Firefly, they did a good job avoiding such things didn't they?]
Firefly/Serenity FTW
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